Re: [tied] Re: Dacian

From: alex_lycos
Message: 20216
Date: 2003-03-22

----- Original Message -----
From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <piotr.gasiorowski@...>

> Hamp's bottom line is:
>
> "Clearly, the whole question remains completely open. But perhaps we
have been able to clear a little ground."
>
> Piotr


I stil fail to see which are at last the linguistic reasons for making
Albanian the directly descendant of Dacian. That should be the first
point. The second point is a comedy piece in my eyes.
There are Romanians in the place of ancient Dacians ( or a tribe of it).
There are the Albanians in the places of ancient Illyrians ( or a tribe
of it). Now, some scholars move the Dacians in the place of Illyrians
so, the Albanians should be the Dacians, and they move the Illyrians in
the place of Dacians for having the Romanians. I agree, is very easy to
move them with the pencil on the map, hardly to put them in the reality.
For these which are sympathetic with such idea, I will like to take a
look at this:

-there is Rom. Name Drâstor for ancient Durostorum , called by Slavs
"Silistra"
-there is the Rom. toponyms and names with Preda, ancient tribe of
Dacian Predavenses
-there is the Dacian Tribe of Timacenses and the Timocean Romanians who
_do not speak_ Aromanian but Dacoromanian, they being there where they
have been observed 2000 ago, in the Valley of Timoc.
- there is the Dacian Tribe of Racatenses and the Rãcãtãu region in
Transilvania even today.
- there is the Dacian plant "dracila" and the romanian plant "dracila"
and some other plants.
- there are a lot of such testimonies, a part of them I showed in the
long time here, I don't repeat them now.

And beside of this , some scholars, move the Dacians in Illyria, they
cannot show any connection between what we know from the Dacian language
and the actually Albanian language and they expect someone will believe
all of this? And when someone else shows Thracian "longa" versus Latin
"longus", Thracian "rumpa" versus latin "rumpere", thracian "apa" versus
Latin "aqua", Thracian "Cerbula" versul Latin "cervus", Thracian "lax"
versus latin "lax", Thracian "arboria" versus Latin "arborea", Thracian
"Seutes" versus Latin "Suetonius", Thracian "Sel-umbria" or and Italic
"Umbria", Latin "Sabini" and Thracian "Sabinibria", Italic Calabria
versus Thracian Skelabria, Thracian Genucla versus Latin genuculum, etc,
etc, etc, ,etc, what to do with this someone else then?

Show him where he is wrong:-)