Re: [tied] Re: Dating PIE's Ancestors (Piotr vs Renfrew)

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From: "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Dating PIE's Ancestors (Piotr vs Renfrew)


>
> Alex:
> >A question here. If the PIE spread from Anatolia why is nothing
> >in South of it? In Africa for instance, which should be the traces of
PIE?
> >On another hand, if PIE spreads from India, why
> >should they migrated just like "Go West"?
>
> Didn't you know? Indo-Europeans were avid fans of the Pet Shop
> Boys. (I also think they loved Abba, Barbara Streisand and the
> Village People but I could be biased a little.)

Yes, I heard about. My grand mother told me ( she was too a fan of
Abba):-))

>
>
> >Why should be the Neolithic people who have had a advanced grade
> >of civilisation and culture undergo to some nomadic tribes and
> >accept the language of these people?
>
> Perhaps the neolithic population was temporarily overtaken by
> IE-speaking nomadic people (say, by 4500 BCE), then the IEs
> partly adopted the lifestyle themselves (say, by 4000 BCE)
> Then, because they now covered a large area thanks to their
> previous nomadism, the Indo-European languages became
> increasingly popular well into Europe. Just a thought
>
>
> - gLeN

It doesn't look to be acceptable. the neolithic population was
widespread, not just in some small areas. Their traces , from Ukraine
until Spain and Germany speaks for theirself. A nomadic population will
dissaper in the big mass. Any linguistic traces of the huns? And they
have be milions of people too. Being nomads they could not give a
language to someone which are not nomads ( see the bilinguism of
migrating people.)
Or maybe you like this scenario: we are here, some nomadic people comes
for 3-4 monthes, we learn 2-3 words from our trade with them, next year
the nomads come again, we learn 3-4 word more and so on, in 1000 years
we are all becoming IE speakers:)