From: alex_lycos
Message: 20061
Date: 2003-03-19
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel J. Milton" <dmilt1896@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:00 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Umbric
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex_lycos" <altamix@...> wrote:
> > does anyone knows which is the etomology of "umbri" ?
> > There is no direct evidence they have been thracians but the name
> is to
> > find in thracian long time before Rome and of course, later in
> Umbria
> > SO far I am informed, there is no conection between "umbra"
> and "Umbria"
> >
> > Alex
>
> Giacomo Devoto's "The Languages of Italy" (English translation
> 1978) Ch. 6 has "Umbrian .... it it not essential to our purpose to
> insist on the original Mediterranean root of the name". An earlier
> chapter is on the pre-I.-E. "Mediterranean" substrate in Italy, so I
> read this as meaning he thinks "Umbrian" is a pre-I.-E. name. His
> footnote is to Devoto "Scritti minori" 2:217ff (Florence, 1967), if
> that happens to be on your shelf. It's not on mine
> What are your Thracian "Umbrians?"
Daniel, I will revert in 12-14 hours after I cambe back from work with
explanations since there is a bit more to explain. Just as homework for
Devoto'S idea:
Umbri are supposed to come from North, then why then a Mediteranean name
for their name?
Alex