Re: [tied] ] Hellenic and Thracian

Peter, I thought Aeolian was a fusion of Ionian and Thessalian
elements?

Also, the Greeks usually considered the Epirots non-Greeks. They spoke
NW Greek, so I'm assuming there wasn't a linguistic basis for the Greeks
to consider them non-Hellenes.

We have the Greek legend of Deucalion and his sons in Thessally fathering
the Greek peoples, did the Greeks have any legends concerning earlier
Hellenic settlements than this? Where did the Greeks place themselves
prior to this legend?

I'm also curious about Herodotus referance to the Dorians being known as
Macednons when they lived near Dryopis, and then when they lived in the
Doris area where known as Dorians. Some have used this to support the
Dorians originally being Macedonian, but I don't if there's linguistic
evidence for this
Adeus,
Michael

On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:57:54 -0000 "P&G" <petegray@...>
writes:

> > > The place of Mycenaean ...connected either with
> > > Aeolic or with Arcadian & Cyprian
>
> > Yes, isn't Mycenaen shown by the linear B tablets to have been
> related to
> > Arcado-Cypriot?
>
> There are links, but also with Aeolic, and nothing to separate
> Mycenaean
> more from one than the other.
>
> > I've also heard that Aeolic is the most archaic Greek dialect.
>
> That's hard to define! Do you mean "least changed?" If so, I
> should point
> out that in some respects it goes further than Arcado-Cyprian (eg e
> > i
> "frequently" before any vowel, not just before n & front vowels;
> and
> labiovelars > labials everywhere) while Arcado-Cyprian takes other
> developments further than Aeolic.
>
> >And what about Northwest Greek/Epiriot? Should this be placed with
> > Dorian?
>
> Northwest Greek is a Western dialect, distinct from Doric dialects
> (eg er >
> ar; -sth- > -st-; and the use of poti for Doric proti /porti)
>
> Peter
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