Re: [tied] Re: Mallory's New PIE Homeland?

From: Geraldine Reinhardt
Message: 19938
Date: 2003-03-17

Ned,
 
Why don't you ask him yourself:
Telephone(UK):028 90 273188
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Email:
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After all, he spoke here at Stanford more than a year ago and maybe he's done another reversal. 
 
I did find this blurb by Mallory on the web and dated to 2000:
 
<<Readers may feel that the author has betrayed them down an endless series of cul de sacs. Nevertheless, this is the current state of research into Indo-European origins and this seemed the best way to convey why the issue is by no means resolved. Ultimately, we have a remarkably unsatisfactory set of choices. We can accept a Pontic-Caspian homeland despite the fact it still appears to be archaeologically undemonstrated, even under the most liberal canons of proof, in explaining the Indo-Europeans of Northern and Central Europe. Alternatively, we might wish to opt for a broader homeland between the Rhine and Volga during the Palaeolithic or Mesolithic which resolves the archaeological issues by fiat but appears to be linguistically implausible. Perhaps our only recourse is to return to our strict definition of the Proto Indo-European homeland as where the Indo- European languages were spoken uin the period 4500-2500 BC. By the end of this period it is reasonable to assume that they were spoken from the Rhine to beyond the Ural. How they achieved that position is still a problem. (p. 257)>>
 
 
 
In final analysis, guess Mallory is allowing everyone to select his/her favorite theory.  I am impressed that he's dating PIE to the period 4500-2500 BC.  I wonder why he limits western I-E to the Rhine ;-)
 
Gerry
 
 
From: ehlsmith
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:24 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Mallory's New PIE Homeland?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Geraldine Reinhardt" <waluk@......>
wrote:
> Ned,
>
> Your answer is appropriate yet the language of one's ancestors
differs from that spoken by descendants.  ...

Of course it does- so that brings us back to the map of the PIE
homeland which you claim Mallory presented. Did he mean it to depict
the area where he thought a mutually understandable PIE was spoken or
the areas where those mutually unintelligble daughter languages were
spoken? If you claim it was the former, I find it very odd that
nobody else has reported such an astounding reversal of Mallory's
view.

>  Does Proto I-E stop at the Caucasus?

According to which homeland proposal?

Regards,
Ned



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