Re: migration?

From: tgpedersen
Message: 19786
Date: 2003-03-13

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Michael J Smith <lookwhoscross-
eyednow@...> wrote:
> I know this may sound silly, and probably isn't even true,
>
> It just occured to me that what if the Cimmerians were the ones
referred
> to in Norse writings
> as the ones (the "Aesir") from North of the Black Sea who migrated
east,
> and "conquered" or settled among the Celtic inhabitants of Northern
> Europe, bringing their Germanic speech with them.
> (I know this is way too general and assuming to much, and just
throwing
> this out as a "who knows" kind of possibility), and they could have
> become the Cimbri. I wonder if the the name of one Cimmerian
leader,
> Marcomir, could be Germanic.
>
> If the Norse writings have any truth in them here (and they may not
at
> all) regarding these "Aesir", then the Cimmerians seem to have been
the
> only settled people from North of the Black Sea that could have
migrated
> West, and if they were the Cimmerians, then this could explain the
> connection of the Aesir with Troy, because Cimmerians were in Asia
Minor.
> And it seems that there must have been some migration if we take
what
> Herodotus said about the Scythians driving out the Cimmerians,
because
> surely not all of them migrated south and into Asia Minor?
>
>
> I don't expect this to be taken seriously, it just randomly occured
to
> me, and at the least I wonder if there was a Western Cimmerian
migration.
>
> -Michael
>
This is my version: there were two invasions into Scandinavia, the
Cimmerian/Cimbrian one around 500 BCE, and the Tungrian, "Odin" one
around 10 BCE (happy now, Glen?). This matches Danish archaeology:
Bronze Age till 500 BCE, Celtic Iron Age 500 BCE to 0 CE, Roman Iron
Age 0 CE to 500 CE. But then there would have been at least two
languages in Denmark in the Celtic Iron Age: Celtic Cimbrian in the
South and West of Jutland, and Old (Scandivavian) Germanic in the
rest of the country. But this would match present dialect boundary
lines.

Torsten