Re: [tied] Lucifer

From: Geraldine Reinhardt
Message: 19757
Date: 2003-03-13

Yet Venus IS the evening star.  Could the answer lie in the possibility that both Venus and Earth are similar?
Likely mirror images of each other?
 
http://wwwstarchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/solar_system_level2/venus.html
 
Thus, we have evidence that Venus as the evening star "could" be brighter. What I don't understand is the difference between Venus as either the morning or evening star?
 
Gerry
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel J. Milton
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Lucifer

  Venus is brighter as the evening star than as the morning star? 
That doesn't make sense astronomically.  Psychologically the morning
star is the more significant, as a herald of the dawn (who needs a
herald of the night?).  The light "lucifer" or "pHo:spHoros" brings
is not its own but the sun's.  This is made clear by the earlier
Greek name, going back to Homer, eo:spHoros.
Dan

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Gerry" <waluk@...> wrote:
> Thanks Piotr.  Any evidence that Lucifer was also connected to the
> evening star (which is usually considered to be brighter than the
> morning one).
>
> Gerry
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
> > It's no secret:
> >
> > <satan> comes from Hebrew s'a:t.a:n 'adversary, accuser',
borrowed
> into New Testament Greek and thence into the Latin of the Vulgate
> (<sata:n>).
> >
> > <lu:ci-fer> is Latin for 'light-bearing' (hence 'the morning
> star'), translating Gk. pHo:spHoros. It came to be associated with
> the fallen angel apparently on the basis of Isaiah 14: "[12] How
art
> thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art
thou
> cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!", etc.
> >
> > <devil> is from Old English de:ofol, borrowed from Lat.
diabolus,
> itself from Gk. dia-bolos, a noun derived from the verb dia-
> ballo: 'throw across' (figuratively > 'slander, traduce'), a loan-
> translation of <s'a:t.a:n>.
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gerry" <waluk@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:39 PM
> > Subject: [tied] Lucifer
> >
> >
> > > Does anyone know the etymology for the term "satan" or devil
or
> > > Lucifer?



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