Re: Celtic or Germanic?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Michael J Smith <lookwhoscross-
eyednow@...> wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I've heard two arguments to account for the Celtic speach and

personal

> names among the Cimbri:
> 1. That they were originally Germanic speakers from Jutland, but

when

> they moved south and stayed among Celtic speakers (which is where

we hear

> of certain Romans having to learn Celtic to communicate with them)

they

> picked there language and much of their clothing and equipment.
> 2. That they were originally Celtic-speakers, and can be

associated with

> the Gundestrop cauldron, which seems to portray Celtic themes, but

became

> Germanic-speaking by the time Tacitus recorded them.
> Regarding the latter, Ammianus of Marcellinus (quoting Timagenes)

and

> Ephoros of Cyme (quoted by Strabo) mention the Celts as having

originally

> come from the outermost
> Isles beyond the Rhine. Regarding this, there was the Baltic island
> Abalum, and this seems to be a word of Celtic origin.
>
> -Michael
>

As mentioned in dr. George's words of wisdom, we've covered this
ground before. Personally I think the Cimmerians passed by the
Scordici and Treballoi, commissioned the cauldron there (or whatever)
and brought to Himmerland, where it was found, close to the Celtic-
like stronghold at Borremose. In my script the Cimbri/Cimmerians
placed it in the bog just prior to the attack on Jutland by
the "Odin" invasion.

Torsten