Re: [tied] Re: PIE *kwokt

From: alex_lycos
Message: 19299
Date: 2003-02-26

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From: <richard.wordingham@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:42 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: PIE *kwokt

Where's the stress in this word, and is Alex's spelling of it
correct? I am having a bit of trouble updating the rules for
Romanian to take account of it. (It was much easier to see it as a
reformation on the masculine.)

viTea has the stress on /a/ and viTel on /e/
vitã has the accent on /i/.
The suffix change the stress of the root, in this case the stress will
be on the vocal of the suffix

> I am very sceptically about the phonologic rules when a short "i"
can
> become an "a" or remain an "i"
> ( se demonstration of Miguel for virdia> varza but vipera > viperã

Perseus ( http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/resolveform ) shows
vipera as having a long 'i'. Why do you think it was short?

Richard

You are right. Vipera is given with a long "i" so the evolution as
expected, is my fault regarding this word.
But vi:ci:nus= vec^in, vi:ci:nita:s= vec^inãtate which shows an "e" from
an long latin /i/.
The posibility should be that the word is not inherited.

Richard, if you want to read something about the stress in Romanian you
can try the work of Vivan Franzen from the University of Lund. Here the
link:
http://www.ling.lu.se/disseminations/pdf/46/Franzen_Horne.pdf