Re[4]: [tied] More nonsense: Is English /d/ truely voiced?

At 9:13:46 AM on Sunday, February 23, 2003, Piotr
Gasiorowski wrote:

> The devoicing of liquids and semivowels after /p, t, k/
> (in words like <pride, trap, crime, crab, cluster, pew,
> cute, twin, queen> seems to me to be stronger in RP than
> anywhere in America.

That is also my impression. It's especially noticeable in
the case of /tr-/, in which the /t/ often undergoes
assibilation.

Brian