Re: [tied] Laryngeal theory as an unnatural

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:45:26 -0600, "Patrick C. Ryan"
<proto-language@...> wrote:

>[PCR]
>Wrong. A "stop" consists of both closure and release. If there is voicing before closure, during closure, or even after closure (after release), or all three, the stop is voiced.

Exactly. All the accounts of initial b-, d-, g- in English agree
there is no voicing before closure, there is no voicing during most of
the closure, and there is voicing after the closure (in the following
vowel or resonant).

>>An ensuing
>> vowel is fully voiced (unlike what's the case with initial p-, t-, k-,
>> where the initial segment of the vowel or resonant is devoiced).
>
>[PCR]
>Wrong again. The initial segment of the vowel is not devoiced, rather aspiration is introduced between the release and vowel.

Aspiration = devoicing.


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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