Brian:
>*The* major difference? No. Aspiration is noticeably more
>important; that's why unaspirated voiceless stops are often
>heard by English speakers as voiced stops.
I question this statement. If you're correct, then how does an
aspirated voiced stop sound like to English speakers? Does it not
still sound like /d/ because of the voicing?
Brian snaps some more because he doesn't have coffee in his part
of the world to make him cheery in the morning:
>By the way, the rest of the quotation -- the part that you snipped --
>makes it clear that devoicing during the stop is common in English.
Common where? Amongst whom? Describe where in English devoicing of
/d/ occurs -- what environments, dialects, etc. I'm truely not aware
of this devoicing. However, I would say, that at least with myself,
I side towards excessive voicing. Perhaps my personal speech pattern,
or dialect, plays a part in my apparent ignorance of this devoicing.
>Never mind; I'm done with this thread.
No loss. You're far too short on patience to have an unstressful debate
with. Can someone else respond to my above questions then without hurling
personal attacks?
- gLeN
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