Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "alex_lycos" <altamix@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 6:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [tied] The word for horse
>
>> I gues the word was simplly "cal" and this is way there is no
>> rothacism
>
> Impossible. Inflection was obligatory once upon a time (see above).
> Even reflexes of Latin consonantal stems are regularly rhotacised in
> Romanian (<soare>, <sare>); then, what about derivatives like
> <cãlãtor>?
>
> Piotr
Piotr, 'calator' is not a derivative from 'cal' but from "cale"= way
.Cale= Latin 'callis' ( short /i/)
I give you now the explications from DEX for derivatives of "cal"= horse
and "cale"= way
cãlãtor= cale +suf. "-ator"
(cale=sf road; (abstract) way, path; (distanta) long way; (a fi pe cale
sa) to be about to; (a pune la cale to plan), to intend; (cale ferata)
railway; (cale navigabila) water way; (din cale afara de [frumos])
extremely;very (beautiful); (calea de mijloc) the golden mean; (Calea
laptelui) the Milky Way; (pe cai ocolite) in a devious way)
derivatives of 'cal'=horse ( plural 'cai') are:
diminutival:
cãluts, cãiSor,
derivatives:
cãlare=on horse back
cãlãraS= Old Word for one from "cãlãrime"= corpus equestrus, this one
being simply a "horseman" but in the army of someone.
cãlãrets, cãlãreatsã (fem)= horseman, horsewoman
cãlãrí ( stress on /i/)= to ride
cãlãrie or cãlãrit = riding
cãlãrime= Old word for "cavalerie"= loan from french
încãlica(popular)/ încãleca (literar)=to mount, to overlap, to climb up
on the horse, to controle a situation/people, etc.
Derivatives from 'cale':
cãlãtor=traveler
cãlãtori ( stress on /i/)= to travel
cãlãtorie ( stress on /i/)= travel
cãlãtorit= one who traveled much
Miscelaneous:
caleaSca= carriage=loanword from Russian 'koleaska'
cãlãuzã = guide= from Turkish 'kilavuz' or Neogreek 'kalauzis'
ol other derivatives which begin with "calauz-" are derived from
'cãlãuzã'
All other words which begin with "cal" should not be related to "horse".
I hope I did not missed too much here from the derivatives in Rom. Lang
of "cal".
Regards,
Alex