Re: [tied] Russian Ivan < ?

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 17447
Date: 2003-01-07

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From: "João Simões Lopes Filho" <jodan99@...>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:12 PM
Subject: [tied] Russian Ivan < ?

> Can Russian Ivan come from a Church Slavic *JUvanI or *JUvanU ?

The actually recorded OCS form is <ioan(n)U>. The East Slavic form seems to derive straightforwardly from *[j]i[w]anU, with the vowel sequence resolved into a glide-vowel-glide-vowel string without empty onsets. No need to posit a faux-Proto-Slavic ancestor.

> The vernacular expected form of surname must be Ivanev or Ivanov?

The latter.