Re: [tied] OE *docga 'Fido'?

From: tgpedersen
Message: 16466
Date: 2002-10-21

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> From: tgpedersen
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> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [tied] OE *docga 'Fido'?
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> --- In cybalist@..., João Simões Lopes Filho <jodan99@...> wrote:
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> > In the case of HOG there's a clear relation to Welsh hwch <
*huccos < *Celtic *succos.
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> But what do you make of Swedish 'sugga' "sow" then (sorry, I don't
have a Swedish Etym Dict)? Danish instead has 'so' "sow". Perhaps
North Germanic Verschärfung?


--- In cybalist@..., Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
wrote:
> Some have seen a "hardened" laryngeal in Gmc. sugo: (e.g. OE sugu >
ME souwe > sow; the gemination in Swedish is expressive, as in the
hypocoristic forms previously discussed), but I think a suffix
(diminutive *-k-) is far more likely: *su-k-á: > *sugo:. Apart from
that derivative, Germanic also has the basic root noun *su:- (OHG
su:, ON sýr, acc./dat. sú, a reflex of which occurs in Danish, cf.
ko 'cow' : ON [Icel.] kýr, kú), and the de-adjectival neuter *sw-i:n-
a.
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> Piotr
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But is that related to the suffix in 'pig' and 'dog'? And what is the
relation to the Celtic *succos?

BTW strange that *su- "one's own; in-laws(?)" are related to swine in
IE, as if the pig was part of the family. Even stranger that
something similar occurs in Austronesian ("pet pig").

http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/sp.html

The peoples of New Guinea and Oceania are known to have pet pigs. Not
so the IE speakers?

Torsten