Re: Greek double-sigma / double-tau

From: Richard Wordingham
Message: 16420
Date: 2002-10-18

--- In cybalist@..., "Amedeo Amendola" <amedeo_a_2002@...> wrote:
> LATT- is related to LATAX. This was the name of a drop of wine left
> at the bottom of a cup used in playing the game of Kattabos. (The
> players were to fling these drops unto vessels floating in a basin.)
> More generally, LATAK- is a milky liquid, such as the one that
comes
> out by breaking off a fig leaf or branch.
> It seems to me that LATT [Latin LACT-is, milk]and LATAK- are
> variations of the same element.
> The THA- is equivalent to the Doric THE- [eta], whence THELE =
> breast; tit. THELU = feminine, womanly. THELAZW (the verb) = I
suckle.

Are you sure? The usual correspondence is Doric a: to Attic/Ionian
e:.

> [Italian: ALLATTO (obviously derived from colloquial Latin: ad+lact-
].
> Greek for milk = Gala (galaktos : ga+lakt-)
> Galaktikos - milk-white.
> Obviously THALATTA is a later word, since it shoew the slur of KT
to
> TT. (The same thing happened from the change of Latin into Italian
> (fructus --> frutto). And obviously the THA of Thalatta precluded
the
> interpretation of "something milky" or somehow points to the to the
> fluid.

As far as I am aware, the only Greek dialects to show intervocalic kt
> tt are in Italy (and I may be mistaken about the form of the
simplification). Other forms of Greek have now slurred as far kt >
xt (x = fricative).

> As to further origins, first of all consider this fact:
> meaningwise: sea = galatta/galassa = mare , etc.
> These words are NOT cognates; therefore, they do not originate from
a
> single language (whether you call it Indo-Europeans or anything
> else). Possibly, one of them may be a variation of an older word.
> Again: milk = gala (galaktos) = lactis, etc.
> In this case, there is a Greek-Latin kinship, but it is impossible
> for all of these words to be derived from a single earlier word.
(It
> is not the case that all of them can be "Indo-European.")
> In an etymology listing, I find:
> Milk < Old English Meolc; Milc. The Old High German MILUH is
proposed
> as a kin word, and then the Germanic *MELKAN is fabricated. If all
> this is correct, then we have words of a Germanic family. There is
no
> clue as to whether Milk is of Indo-European origin, since we have
NO
> words of some language which is then called Aryan or proto-Indo-
> European or Indo-German or anything else. (There is no evidence
for
> this hypothetical primordial language.)So, when you ask for the IE
> original word, beware! There are only fabricated IE words.

Have you considered the discussion on the milk words (PIE *melg^-
along with Latin lac and Greek gala) in the following postings:
14437, 14440, 14475, 14479, 14486, 14491
14443, 14444, 14455, 14476, 14483, 14485 ?

'Fabricated' is a bad word unless you are implying fraud.
Think 'reconstruction', as in the reconstruction of a crime.

Richard.

P.S. I agree with Piotr in his assessment of your posting.