Re: [tied] Gmc. *bru:diz

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 16391
Date: 2002-10-18

Is it really Paul Kiparsky's? Pokorny makes the connection as well, as does the EIEC (no doubt after Pokorny). No exact derivation is offered by either for the Germanic 'brain' word, but *mrog(^)H- + *-ono- seems plausible (cf. *wog^H- + *-ono- > *wag(a)na- and other similar forms in Germanic (whatever this *-ono- actually is). Gk. brekHmós and brékHma (*mreg(^)H-mó-, *mrég(^)H-mn) have a deverbal look to them. Has anyone suggested an interpretation of this underlying *mreg(^)H-?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jens Elmegaard Rasmussen
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Gmc. *bru:diz

On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Miguel Carrasquer wrote:

[For IE *mr- > Germanic br-]
> Perhaps OE, OS bregdan "to plait", Du. breien "to knit" ~ Grk. brokhós
> "Strick,
> Schlinge, Masche", MIR. braige, braga "captive", OCS mre^z^a "Netz,
> Schlinge"
> (*mregh-) ?

It *is* beginning to look good. I have also wondered, in the light of the
new idea on *bru:diz, if the connection made by P.Kiparsky between Eng.
brain and Greek brekhm¢s 'front part of the head' (reported by Mayrhofer,
Idg.Gr.,  Lautlehre p. 114) should be taken to represent IE *mr-, not
*bhr-. That would sidestep the Grassmann problem addressed by Kiparsky and

I think we must congratulate João Simões Lopes Filho (whose name won't
come out right on my new computer) on a very felicitous idea. Sometimes
this list does produce real progress. Let's have some more, Joao!


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