Re: [tied] Let dogs have their day too

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 15952
Date: 2002-10-05

The PIE root is *k^won- ( *k^uo:n, gen. *k^un-os), hence e.g. Old Indo-Aryan s'van-, Gk. kuo:n, OIr. cu:, Lith. s^uo~, Arm. s^un, Toch. ku. Whether Lat. canis is connected with this set is still a moot question; regular Latin changes don't seem to permit any such thing. Perhaps it's a loan from a language in which *k^wn.- > *kan-). Eric Hamp's ingenious but controversial proposal connects *k^won- with *pek^u- 'livestock': pk^u-on- 'herder' > *k^won-.
In some branches we have suffixations based on the weak form *k^wn-: Iranian *cva-k-a- > *spaka- (cf. Skt. s'vaka- 'wolf' < 'dog-like') and Germanic *hun-d-a-. Russ. sobaka (not a pan-Slavic word) is generally assumed to be a loan from Iranian, but it appears to be relatively modern (_not_ from Scythian or Sarmatian) and perhaps not _directly_ from Iranian.
Slavic *pIsU 'dog' is a mystery. The *s must derive from *k^ or *k^s (PIE *s would have become *x in this environment). Various etymological guesses can be ventured, all of them unprovable at present. For all we know, it may have originated as a dog's proper name like 'Spot' (*peik^- 'paint, ornament' yields some colour terms as well as words meaning 'spotted, speckled'; cf. Skt. pis'a-, which refers to a species of deer).
Eng. dog (which has replaced OE hund) is attested only once in Old English (docgena = of *docga). It looks like a typical OE hypocorism (pet-name) and may be another proper name that acquired a generic meaning.
----- Original Message -----
From: george knysh
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Let dogs have their day too (Was Re: More numbers)

--- Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> The dog was the only pre-Neolithic domesticated
> animal.  I'm not aware of any
> evidence that it comes from SE Asia.

******GK: Speaking of man's best friend (PIE man's
best friend too?)what's the story on basic "dog" words
and roots? Canis (chien of course), hund, dog etc.. In
Ukr. (and I presume other Slav tongues) we have "pes"
(any relation to or confusion with the catty p:s?) and
"sobaka" (the latter I have sometimes heard described
as cognate to Iranic forms?)******