Re: [tied] A well-founded proposal?

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 15924
Date: 2002-10-04

I wasn't thinking of cast iron, actually. When the *geut- verb was used in early Germanic as a metalworking term, the reference was of course to easily fusible metals like bronze and lead. By the way, I quoted OE words from memory, but now I have checked them up in Bosworth & Toller's dictionary. They give <le:ad-gota> 'lead-founder', which means that the 'founder' and 'Goth' words were homonymous in Old English: gota < *gut-o:n-. The question is how plausible it would be for a Germanic tribal name to be of a occupational kind. Comments welcome.
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From: tgpedersen
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:57 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: More Pliny's "Guthalvs"

I have one problem with that: What would those people cast iron for? All iron then was wrought iron, it passed through the hands of a smith. I suspect the meaning "cast" is late, it is used today in that sense in German and Swedish (both nations with plenty of iron ore); in Danish (we have no iron ore except low grade stuff found in bogs) /gyde/ means "spawn" (of fish) and nothing else (except /udgyde/ "pour forth" -> "talk nonsense").