Re: [tied] *h3 (More deja-vu)

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 15914
Date: 2002-10-04

Not necessarily. There's a whole family of glottal approximants: voiceless [h] like word-initial <h> in English, breathy-voiced [H] such as Czech <h>, or this creaky-voiced [*]. All of them can in principle occur in any position; L&M say what [*] sounds like between vowels, but an initial [*e] would simply mean a pre-laryngealised vowel. In RP, a final [*] can be heard quite regularly at the end of a falling intonation contour, when the voice reaches the bottom of its pitch range.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jens Elmegaard Rasmussen
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] *h3 (More deja-vu)

Would that not demand that *h1 be intervocalic-only?


On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:

> There is no such thing as a voiced glottal stop, by the way. The vocal
> folds can't make an occlusion and vibrate at the same time. A
> laryngealised (creaky-voiced) glottal approximant (transcribed [*] by
> Ladefoged and Maddieson and defined as "diminution of energy between
> adjacent vowels") would however be another imaginable realisation of
> *h1. My only objection to such a reconstruction is that we'd have to
> think of a different symbol to replace L&M's asterisk :)
> Piotr