Re: [tied] Rum. -(i)ci [ Re: Miguel & dentis]

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From: "George S t a n a" <gs001ns@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:43 PM
Subject: [tied] Rum. -(i)ci [ Re: Miguel & dentis]


>
> > >The Latin diminutive suffix -icus is etymologically
related
> > >to Slavic -IcI (< *-ikos).
> > >
> > >Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> >
> >[Moeller] yes. And speacialy i got the example with lat.
> >pacalis=pacalici
>
> I don't know the etymology of the Romanian suffix "-(i)ci".
> But, be it of Latin or Slavic origin, it has a bit of a
derogatory
> connotation, and it is not quite productive.
>
> Hence the mocking background for the word "pacalici".
> Similar epitheta are "tremurici" (for someone trembling,
> shivering, incl. with fear; also as a family name,
Tremurici);
> "bolborici" (either for a stammerer or someone talking
gibberish;
> also as a second name, Bolborici). Etc.
>
> George
[Moeller] I did not have had the feeling it should be
derogatory, but how many minds so many ideeas. BTW, for
tremurici and bolborici(?), are there latin corespondents too?
I just ask because I always tought the Pacalis never should
have went alone somewhere , but he must have had some 2-3
persons as body guards. Unfortunately none could find them
until today, so, maybe your "bolborici" should be one of
them....

regards..