Re: [tied] Re: Miguel & dentis

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 15122
Date: 2002-09-05

On Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:50:11 -0000, "richardwordingham"
<richard.wordingham@...> wrote:

>I am puzzled by Miguel's hint that 'tz' is Slavonic '-its-'. Has
>this suffix been productive in Romanian? A Slavonic ze,bitsU (or
>something similar - I am no Slavicist) seems to be being proposed as
>a source, but did Slavonic actually use the e-grade or zero grade of
>the root? Am I overlooking something else?

The suffix is -IcI. As far as I know, zo~bIcI (> Bulg. z&b&c), from zo~bU (>
Bulg. z&b), would have had o-grade, so the /i/ in Rom. zimtz is not expected.
The loss of yer is regular in the Slavic oblique cases (zOb&c, zObca), but I
imagine also in Romanian if the word was borrowed as an u-stem (*'z&mb&tzu >

Miguel Carrasquer Vidal