Re: [tied] Seeking Information Please

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 14872
Date: 2002-08-31

I suppose you realise that this tridic scheme is somewhat artificial and thet with the exception of the 'druid' word the rest of those "Gaulish" terms are actually Latin.
The Celtic word <druid> is etymologised as *dru-wid-, where the second part is the PIE root *weid- 'see, know' (see Old Indo-Aryan su-vid- 'knowing well'), and the first part is an element originally meaning 'strong, solid' that came to function as an intensive prefix. You can interpret *dru-wid- as 'he who knows/sees a lot'.
<eques> (equit-) and <mi:les> (mi:lit-) are the Latin military terms for 'cavalryman' and 'infantryman'. The equites ('knights') were of course a social order as well, but the military meaning is more basic than the political one, and the word is of course derived from <equus> 'horse'. I don't know where the <mi:l-> root of <mi:lit-> comes from. There is no obvious Latin or IE base (any guesses, List?), and it's hard to tell if the word comes from Etruscan, as sometimes claimed.
The quirites were Roman 'civilians', i.e. the citizens of Rome in their civil capacity. Tradition explains the term as 'inhabitants of Cures' (a Sabine town), a body of whom, under their king Titus Tatius, settled in early Rome (remember the rape story?). <curis, quiris> is also a word for 'spear' (thought to be of Sabine origin), so it's likely that the original meaning of <quirit-> is 'spearman'.
Last time I checked, the jury was still out on whether Old Indo-Aryan <brahman-> and Latin <flamen> were related or just similar-looking. If cognate, they would have to be reconstructed as something like *bHlag^H-men- (thus in Pokorny's dictionary), the root *bHlag^H- being otherwise unknown and so conveniently obscure that you may attribute any meaning to it.
<plebs, ple:be:s> 'the common people' comes from PIE *pleh1-dHw- 'plenty, multitude', cf. Gk. ple:tHo: 'be full', ple:tho:re: 'fullness, satiety', from a very common root meaning 'fill' (cf. English full < *plh1-no-).
----- Original Message -----
From: Greaghoir MacIain
To: Indo-European
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [tied] Seeking Information Please

Greetings all,

I have just recently joind this list, and I must say, after reading through
my first batch of thirty-somthing emails, I feel slightly reluctant to pose
my question ... it seems laughable compared to some of the conversations
going on here.

But, since this list is dedicated to IE history, linguistics and culture,
damnd be my pride, I need sourcecs ;-)

What I am looking for are some other comparisons of IE linguisticly related
peoples for the following:

Flamines (priests)
Milites (warriors)
Quirites (herders/cultivators)

Druids (priests)
Equites (warriors)
Plebes (herders/cultivators)