*bhardha & lat. barbatus

From: alexmoeller@...
Message: 14529
Date: 2002-08-25

barba and barabatus they are both from the PIE *bhardha so far
I am aware of it.
Could latin get these two words directly from PIE ? Let us

the PIE -bh- and -dh- , when they were fallowed by a voewl
became in latin -f-

So in this case the latin should have had "farfa" and not
"barba".And this is true, indeed the latin have had the word

The Opinion of A. Meillet here that latin -f- became a "b"
under the influence of the second -b- in the word is of no
help because in this case we have no second -b- because the
dh> f too.

So, barba and too barbatus they are imposible to be latin. It
seems more probably the latins borowed it from somewhere else

Best regards

a. moeller