Re: Daci

--- In cybalist@..., "vkarloukovski" <karlouko@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@..., "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> there is an earlier, pre-XII c. evidence of postfixed articles
> in Bulgarian, but it is in the toponymy and personal names
> and not in Church Slavonic texts.
>
> - One saint, Ivan Rilski (876-946 AD) was born in the village
> of Skrin-o near Sofia and the form 'Skrin-o' (from 'skrin',
> 'dresser, chest of drawers', masc.) fits nicely with the local
> Shopean dialect (it is 'skrin-a/skrin-&t' in modern Bulgarian);

The really strange thing is that it is <skrin-et> in Danish (although
this is neuter), <skrin> being an early Latin loan in Germanic too.

>
> - a monastery register from ~1070 AD has the personal names
> Velik-on ('the great (one)', from 'velik', adj., masc.) and
> Lahanar-a ('the gardener', from the Greek 'lahan', cabbage,
> vegetables);

-on- ??
Now *that* I find intersting. It could be analysed both as Slavic
<on> "he", and as the PIE suffix *-on- of the Latin <cat-us>, <cat-on-

> example. May I inconvenience Piotr with a request for an exposition

of the standard etymology of Slavic <on> "he"?

> - an important Black sea port in northern Bulgaria was called
> Konop-a (from 'konop', hemp, masc.). The name was registered
> in 920 AD;
> etc.
>
> If we look for feminine endings, there is the place name 'Verega-va'
> (from 'veriga', a chain, a mountain chain), a part of the Balkan
> m-s where the Byzantine emperor Nicephorus II was ambushed by
> khan Krum. The source is the chronicle of Theophanes, ~ 830 AD.
>
> The last group probably also includes Pliska/Pl&skova, the early
> Bulgar capital (VII-IX c.), and other town names.
>
>
> Regards,
> Vassil Karloukovski

In other words, mostly toponyms and personal names, before
this "areal tendency" prevails in Bulgarian. That's exactly the
situation you'd expect if Thracian had suffixed articles eg. based on
PIE -on- (if this wasn't originally an independent article?

Torsten