[tied] Re: Accepted cognates of Arya?

From: ravichaudhary2000
Message: 12294
Date: 2002-02-06

--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> This is what cultural solidarity is all about. The followers of one
model of society and religion are classified as "friends" (a:rya-),
while those who subscribe to other cultural norms become "foes,
foreigners" (dasyu-), no matter if they are linguistically related or
not. The same pattern is found among the Iranians: in the Avesta the
term <airiia-> is reserved for the East Iranians. At least some of
the North Iranians applied it to themselves (possibly excluding other
Iranians). There is no evidence, however, that <arya-/a:rya-> was
ever intended as a collective designation for all ancient Indo-
Iranian peoples. Its use developed from social and cultural to
political and (occasionally) ethnonymic in a world where there were
always "us" and "them".
>
> Piotr
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: vishalsagarwal
> To: cybalist@...
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:17 AM
> Subject: [tied] Re: Accepted cognates of Arya?
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> A consideration of all the occurrences of the word in RV shows that
it is used practically always for Puru-Bharatas and their allies.
Never for the other Vedic tribes.


Do or did any tribes or groups apart from "Iranians" or " Indo" of
the avestan or rig vedic variety use arya as a term to describe
themselves, ?

Ravi