Re: [tied] Scythian Cognates -- more speculation

From: Alexander Stolbov
Message: 11949
Date: 2001-12-28

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Thank you, Piotr!
However it is so carelessly to encourage a dilettante. It will be not easy to cork the fountain of crazy ideas afterwards.
For the beginning:
 
Avestan Thraetaona is famous due to the great victory over Azhi Dahaka (Dahaka the Serpent) - a foreign chief usurped the power in the country . Iranists say that Thraetaona is a development of a more ancient Indo-Iranian personage Trita.
Rigvedic Indra is famous due to the great victory over Vritra the Serpent (RV I,32), also known as Vritra the Dasya (RV I,33). Indologists say that Indra supplanted a more ancient Indo-Iranian personage Trita in many aspects.
 
Could the Iranian word Dahaka be linguistically compared to the Indic word Dasya?
 
Alexander
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Piotr Gasiorowski
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Scythian Cognates -- more speculation

A brilliant idea, Sasha! Supposing that Targitaus is a mangled Greek version of, say, *þrika-tavah- 'having threefold strength' (or rather its late variant *þriga-tavah- with the voicing of intervocalic *k), Av. þraetaona- (*þrai-tauna-) 'thrice potent' would be for all intents and purposes the same name despite the trivial suffixal differences (the same roots recur in both parts of the compound). Are we on the trail of the oldest foundation myth of the Iranians? :)
 
Piotr
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Scythian Cognates -- more speculation

If so may I return to a unanswered question I asked before:
 
According to Herodotus Paralatai is a tribe descending from the youngest of 3 sons of Targitaus - Kolaxais, the king who possessed xwarena (if we accept the mentioned etymology).
According to Avesta Aryan is a tribe descending from the youngest of 3 sons of Thraetaona - Arya, the king who possessed xwarena.
 
Could Targitaus be linguistically compared to Thraetaona?