From: Anne Lambert
Message: 11744
Date: 2001-12-09
Dear Torsten and Cybalisters:
----- Original Message -----
From: tgpedersen <mailto:tgpedersen@...>
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Yggdrasill
--- In cybalist@..., "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...> wrote:
>
>
> Anne:
> >Could this tree be the one on which Odin hung for nine days and
> >nine nights, thus being Odin's steed, a "horse" on which he rode?
>
> Again, this "steed" connection. Where is this coming from? A tree
> just doesn't look like a horse, I'm sorry. Maybe I don't smoke up
> enough but I just don't see the connection yet ;)
>
> - love gLeN
>
Recipe:
Take one horse, ram a pole up its butt, and hang to dry over a water
hole for a few months. You may want to smoke some too, as the
Sarmatians did. Behold the remains of the horse over the water hole.
You will now clearly perceive the secret order of the world, horse,
world tree and all.
Torsten
[PCR]
I think the key to this may be that the term <drasil> is being taken in its probable primary meaning ('drawer, puller out') so that hanging from the tree is conceived as facilitating shamanistic 'travels' a la Amerindian sun-wheels.
Pat
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"Veit ec at ec hecc, vindgá meiði a netr allar nío,
geiri vndaÞr . . . a Þeim meiÞi, er mangi veit,
hvers hann af rótom renn." (Hávamál 138)
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It's a kind of metaphor called a "kenning" like "whale-road" for "sea" or "Odin's mead" for poetry. A poem is what Odin brewed up. It's part of an elaborate and not necessarily realis tic poetic convention. Anne