--- Piotr Gasiorowski <
gpiotr@...> wrote:
> My opinion is the standard one -- whatever his
> Hunnish name, he was best known under his Gothic
> byname "Daddy" (perhaps resembling or translating
> the original, but that's hardly necessary).
>
> Piotr
*****GK: I don't see how we can move much beyond this
opinion. The fact that the Volga had a Turkic (?) name
Atil or Itil seems irrelevant. I don't remember
leaders of steppe peoples named after rivers. They
MIGHT sometimes be named after Peoples of course (or
the reverse). In the case of Attila the only thing
that comes immediately to mind is that strange list of
"northern peoples" in Jordanes we discussed a while
back. Among then is a possible ATHAUL. "Daddy" or
"Little Father" as a Gothic rendition of "The Athaul"?
There is a Hunnic people known as the "ULCH"(ULTZ) and
a post-Attila leader known as Ulchindur. But the link
with Atha-Ul seems tenuous. Best to just stick with
what we definitely know to be the case. And we'll
never turn "Attila" into a Goth (:=)).*****
>
>
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