Re: [tied] Eh, Catherine!

From: João S. Lopes Filho
Message: 11441
Date: 2001-11-23

Yes, I think this is valid for almost all oldest Catholic churches. The
resemblances between Cosmas and Damianus and the Dioskouroi are amazing, for
example.
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From: <markodegard@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Eh, Catherine!


> The modern view is that just about everything associated with St.
> Catherine of Alexandria is, at best, a pious fiction. As I recall, she
> has been dropped from the Roman calendar (like St. Christopher), but
> my memory may be defective.
>
> The (old) Catholic Encyclopedia gives a good overview of the problem:
> http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03445a.htm
>
>
> --- In cybalist@..., "Sergejus Tarasovas" <S.Tarasovas@...> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> >
> > >Her original name was Marta Skavronska (a Livonian/Latvian version
> > of what is certainly a Polish surname).
> > I've read the authenticity if this name is disputed, do I prefered
> > not to mention it.
> >
> > >Presumably an adaptation of Greek Aikaterine was found suitable for
> > her -- there _is_ a saint with that name -- St. Catherine of Sinai
> is
> > worshipped as Aikaterine in the Greek Orthodox Church, AFAIK.
> >
> > Vasmer writes that <Jekaterina> was probably first mentioned in the
> > middle of the 15th c. in a description of a pilgrimage to Jerusalem.
> > Considering the fact that I can't find any traces of this name in
> Old
> > and Middle Russian sources, the name most likely was used in
> relation
> > to St. Catherine (Gr. Aikateri'ne:) of Alexandria (her 'full
> > designation' in orthodox tradition , = St. Catherine of Sinai). The
> > most likely this name was a bookish exotic one for the Russians up
> to
> > the 18th c. It's characteristic that St. Catherine of Alexandria is
> > _the only_ Catherine in the orthodox church calendar (in contrast to
> > more that a dozen in the catholic one).
> > As for Greek Aikateri'ne: < aei` kathari'na 'always pure', Vasmer
> > refers as far back as to Pape's Wo"rterbuch der griechischen
> > Eigennamen (1863-1870), where. I suppose, this rather non-standard
> > development is explained.
> >
> > Sergei
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