--- Sergejus Tarasovas <
S.Tarasovas@...>
wrote:
>
> You can call Old Ukrainian what has been called Old
> Russian for a
> long time in the English tradition, but I somehow
> doubt this can help
> clarify the matter.
*****GK: And what matter would that be? The English
tradition is not cast in stone. What's wrong in
distinguishing "Old Ukrainian" from "Old Russian" or
"Old Ukrainians" from "Old Russians"? Or "Old
Belarusans" for that matter? What's your line? To
continue confusing everything under the "Russian"
label? Sounds a tad ethnocentric to me (:=))****
(ST) IMHO, being ethnocentric
> presupposes some
> inevitable aberration, inadmissible or at least
> undesirable for a
> real scholar, whose goal is the truth rather than
> over-emphasizing
> his or her nation (like 'tsur can be found in
> Ukrainian only' - just
> open a Slavic etymological dictionary on the lexeme
> *skjurU).
*****GK: What's wrong with you my dear fellow? Where
are you coming from with these insinuations? There is
nothing "ethnocentric" about the recognition of
reality. Your claim that I suggested that "tsur" is an
expression found "only in Ukrainian" is simply untrue.
I merely mentioned an expression which does exist in
Ukrainian and wondered what it meant. Sometimes I
wonder if you actually understand what you read. (no
"ethnocentric" comment intended).*****
(ST) Such
> ethnocentrism has done a bad turn to, eg, Trubachev
> (Russia) and
> Zinkevic^ius (Lithuania) time and again.
*****GK: I don't know about Zinkevic^ius and his
Lithuanian ethnocentrism. Trubachev has occasionally
lapsed into the Russian chauvinistic mood. But what
does this have to do with lil' old me?*****
>
> Sergei
>
>
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