From: lsroute66@...
Message: 10466
Date: 2001-10-20
--- In cybalist@..., babeck@... wrote:
<<I have been unable to find a dating for the calendar fragment, but
it seems likely to be 6th century, because that was the date of the
Gothic Kingdom in Italy.>>
By asking for a cite, I was asking for where and how it was reported.
The provenance and orthography of such an item really are important,
particularly because it seems nothing at all like this has ever been
found.
<<As for Frederick, it was my guess that he was a saint, but he may
have been just a martyr. In any case he would have been an Arian, so
his name would not have been perpetuated by Catholicism.... what are
you suggesting? That is is a forgery?>>
My point "on first impression" was that "(Saint) Frederick" created a
serious dating problem - prima facie.
<<When you say that this "would not be ancient German", I have never
heard this suggestion before from any of the experts.>>
The middle ages by convention are sometimes taken to begin at 500
AD. Something written in Latin e.g. after that date would not be
"ancient Latin" by that standard. As far as what the experts say, I
don't remember ever hearing about this item, for what it is worth.
Heather and just about everyone else cites the ON instance to support
"got/thiuda." I'd like to know more. Steve