From: rhtabone@...
Message: 9867
Date: 2001-09-29
--- In cybalist@..., Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:21:34 -0000, tgpedersen@... wrote:
>
> >Probably in Dutch <Duits> "German", pronounced approximately <däüts>,
> >earlier <döyts> (Dutch speakers are welcome to protest here).
>
> Is [ü] the same as [y]? The diphtongs /Ei/ (ij, ei), /Öü/ (ui) and
> /Ou/ (ou, au) have a tendency to open their first element towards
> [äi], [Äü] and [Au] (while the monophtongs /e./, /ö./ and /o./
> diphtonguize towards [ei], [öü] and [ou]). The middle Dutch
> pronunciation was [dü:tsk] or [dü:tsx], ultimately from *Tiudisk-.