Re: [tied] a(i)s-

From: g-tegle@...
Message: 9866
Date: 2001-09-29

The Celtic root might very well be *isarno- with short <i>.
*is- may derive from the zero-grade *h2is- of *h2eyes- (skt. ayas
lat. aes). But such a theory leaves Gmc *i:sarno- isolated.


HÃ¥vard


--- In cybalist@..., Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:10:24 -0000, tgpedersen@... wrote:
>
> >re: ais, eis (god, divinity).
> >
> >"
> >Plural: aisar, aesar eisar, eiser, ais-er, ais-ar. Variants:
aisuna
> >(Rex Sacrorum), eisnev (priestly title), aineri ("to be
worshipped"),
> >aisna ("divine"). Cf. N. Picene aiten; Umbrian esono- Marrucian
> >aisos, etc. all meaning `god" or related activities such
as "worship"
> >or "sacrifice.
> >
> >Benveniste proposed a connection with Celt. and Goth.*isarn (iron)
as
> >the "Celestial metal". ...
>
> That's Celtic *i:sarnos -> Goth. <eisarn> /i:sarn/, with initial
*ei-.
>
> >If he is right, the word is also related
> >to Skt. ayas (iron, metal), which is even closer to the Etruscan
> >form, and also has the same meaning.
>
> Skt. <ayas> does *not* mean "god".
>
> >But then we also have a
> >connection with Lat. aes, Teut. ais, Them. aisa, Germ. eisen,
etc.,
>
> Gmc. *aiz (> Eng. <ore>) has nothing to do with Gmc. *i:sarn- (>
Eng.
> <iron>). The froms <ayas>, <aiz>, <aes> etc. derive from a PIE
*aio-
> (*h2ai-o-) "copper (ore)".