[tied] Re: Apollo

From: cas111jd@...
Message: 9600
Date: 2001-09-19

--- In cybalist@..., "Joseph S Crary" <pva@...> wrote:
> I'm sorry
> the Appaliunas of Wilusa is a deity from the Late Bronze Age and
> from the Hellenic period. This is the earlest form of the Apollo.

I am aware of this. I believe that the Trojans were Thracians. They
were referred to by the Egyptians at the battle of Kadesh as the
Drdn, which we should equate to the classical Dardanians of the
Troad. Also found in Hittite records was the state of Masa, which we
should equate to classical Mysia.

> Also instead of the "Lycian Apollo" I think you may have meant
> the "Lydian Apollo."

Perhaps. I'm going on recollection, here. Besides, it's entirely
possible that Thracian elements settled in Bronze Age Lydia and
elsewhere, but the local Anatolian languages prevailed. Witness, for
example, Sardis, which seems to be a cognate of the Thracian city of
Sardica (modern Sofia, I beleive).
> I'm not sure why your making a connection between Apollo and north
> central Europe, however doesn't amber have a somewhat shining or
> like appearance?
I think I detailed why I connect him with the north. Amber was called
the "tears of Apollo" for its color and perhaps for its combustable
properties. It might have also been attributable to him because, as I
detailed with his Gaulish counterparts, he seems to have been
associated with both light and water.

As for the "lord + lion" etymology theory, it seems difficult to find
any antecedents in Anatolia. Dionysus was an ancient Anatolian god
associated with leopards or lions, but he was a dying-and-
resurrecting god associated with vegetation and fertility - not
light. I don't recall Apollo having lions identified as his totemic
animal, were they?

> JS Crary