Re: When Germani?

--- In cybalist@..., "Christopher Gwinn" <sonno3@...> wrote:

>
> Torsten writes:
> >
> >BTW How can Sequani be p-Celtic?
>
> We have documents from their territory that prove they spoke a P-

Celtic

> dialect. One should be aware that the presence of a -qu- in Gaulish

words

> does _not_ indicate a Q-Celtic dialect _unless_ that -qu- is the

outcome of

> a PIE -kw-. The simply fact is, Gaulish employed -qu- to represent

the

> combination of -co- + -u-. For example, the Gaulish ethnic name

Quariates is

> very likely for *Co-uariates (with Co- from PIE kom-

"together/with/co-").

> This means that Sequana may be from *seko-uana (note Gallo-

Brittonic uan-

> "slay/pierce").
>
> Another possible use of -qu- in Gaulish is simply as an alternate

spelling

> for -cu- (as we see in the Calendar of Coligny, where Cutios can be

written

> Qutios or even Gutios). In this case, the root of Sequana may

simply be a

> u-stem *secu- + the suffix -ana.
>
> - Chris Gwinn
>

Aha! I was trying to manoeuver into a position where I could maintain
that the Belgae which Caesar claims came conquering from Germania
were p-Celts taking land from q-Celts. There goes that theory.

Torsten