Re: Views about Etruscan

From: Joseph S Crary
Message: 8789
Date: 2001-08-28


I've seen that too and its an extremely good point.
I planned on addressing it when I returned from the field this coming

archaeology calls once again.

Just need to ask; first whose translation was this; did you finish
reading that chapter? If you do you will notice these Tyrrhenians are
in Greece, not Italy or Anatolia. Regardless, this may suggest they
were related to the Tyrrhenians in Italy and the Tyrasians of

hêntina de glôssan hiesan hoi Pelasgoi, ouk echô atrekeôs
eipein. ei de chreon esti tekmairomenon legein toisi nun
eti eousi Pelasgôn tôn huper Tursênôn Krêstôna
oikeontôn, hoi homouroi kote êsan toisi nun Dôrieusi
kaleomenoisi (oikeon de tênikauta gên tên nun
Thessaliôtin kaleomenên),

Then which tongue began Pelasgoi, [I] can not honestly say. Weather
it was at some time fixed by a boundary yet it is said that
Pelasgôn were settled [at] Krêstôna City above the Tyrrheni1
bordered for a time those called Dôrieusi. The territory they had
settled is now called Thessaliôtin.

What language the Pelasgians spoke I cannot say definitely. But if
one may judge by those that still remain of the Pelasgians who live
above the Tyrrheni1 in the city of Creston--who were once neighbors
of the people now called Dorians, and at that time inhabited the
country which now is called Thessalian--

Its interesting that Pelasgians and Tyrrhenians were mentioned side
by side in Greece. The other thing is

Pelasgôn tôn huper Tursênôn can

be rendered as:

Pelasgians, earlier the Tyrrhenians

huper has both spatial and temporal meanings:

above beyond, before, and earlier

Possible this line says the Pelasgian were formerly the Tyrrhenians
in Greece.

Hope this helps

JS Crary