[tied], Re:, Tell me an ancient word for Steppe...Finally

From: Joseph S Crary
Message: 8402
Date: 2001-08-09

Glen

you just cant get what you want
but you find
somethimes
you just might get what you need

along these lines...

truly your theory
as with your enthusiasm has merit
with that all said
it appears to need still more work
don't give up on it
better yet don't fear changing it
when needed as well

I have been told the same thing
by experts time without end
and in no-uncertain terms

And...

this of course brings me to...

The Cimmeri, Kimmer, Cimbri, Himmer, and Cambri
thingie

a topic tas'gone, round n'round, here about

I've been told that it is impossible for there to have been a early
form of this word that looks like either Cimbri or Kimmeri, means the
land, country, or nation. Alas I've found the Luwian word --immari,
meaning a field, or steppe. Then there is the Hittite word --gimmara-
and --kimmara, defined as meaning, the land, country, and nation.
You may notice the similarity of gimmerara to the Assyrian name for
the Kimmer/Cimmeri-called Gimirrai.


C Gwinn wrote this about Cimmeri/Kimmeri earlier this year

--it would appear in Common Celtic as *comrogos/*comrogi (because
Gaulish/Brittonic brog- was mrog- in earlier Common Celtic period),
which would then later become Gaulish and Brittonic
*cobrogos/*cobrogi and ultimately lead to Welsh Cyfry.--

These similar looking Anatolic words sport the same meanings.
Now is there appears a solid connection between the Luwian immara and
Hittie kimmara, with the Hellenic rendering kimmerion, Latin Cimbrae,
and later Celt forms? It seems so to me.

Interestingly, it would make sense that the word appears in Anatolic
and proto- or whats often called Common Celt as the split between
these two groups and the main post-Anatolic group may have occurred
around the same time (around 2300-1800 BC). Apparently, this
primitive term for the steppe was retained in the southern Ukraine
for a long time, possibly to be adopted as a reference for a
political grouping.

Still...

Glen I found this while looking for information about

...the Etruscans



JS Crary