[tied] Re: Baltic *gud3-

From: Sergejus Tarasovas
Message: 8080
Date: 2001-07-24

--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> I'd better explain, just in case, that in these pre-Germanic
reconstructions *G is not just capital "g" but stands for whatever
had developed out of PIE *gH (my favourite idea is that *G was a
voiced fricative).

:)))))) When one constantly sees gamma-like or g-struck-through
tokens only in tens of books, it's hard to realize that your G means
the same.

> The problem with your scenario is that the Gothic migration via or
past the Pripyat' marshes took place definitely too late to antedate
Grimm's Law, and the people who accomplished it were already "gut-"
rather than "Gud-". My guess is that if your theory about the origin
of Baltic *gud- is correct, the borrowing must have occurred much
earlier, say, 500-300 BC, or anyway long before Jordanes' story

No, not that. I'm pretty sure the borrowing couldn't have occured
after 100 BC. By the time the Goths' migration occured, the ethnonym
has been known to the Balts for centuries. Then it was just applied
to the part of Goths despite the fact they were gut-, tiud- or
anything else at the moment.