Re: Croatians and the Carpathians

--- In cybalist@..., tgpedersen@... wrote:

> --- In cybalist@..., markodegard@... wrote:
> > > Except perhaps exactly for "Hrvat"? As I read your reply,

you're

> > > saying that *xrvat- is not used in any Slavic language to
> designate
> > > the Carpathian mountains. But wasn't "Karpaty" (as you

explained)

> a
> > > relatively recent loan (from some non-Grimm-shifting language,
> > > possibly Roumanian)? Aren't the Carpathians today in a Slav-
> depleted
> > > (excuse the term) region? (It is also Germanic-depleted, and

all

> > > Germanic languages have given up *xarfaD-). Wouldn't it have

been

> > > possible for Slavs to have had a *xrvaty for the Carpathians
> before
> > > having loaned "Karpaty"?
> > >
> > > Torsten
> >
> > Slav depleted? Germanic-depleted? I don't understand.

That's what happens when invent your own short-hand.
What I meant was that there used to be Slavs/Germanic speakers in the
area but there aren't that many anymore (as used to be). Therefore
they give up using their own geographical names (for rivers/mountains
etc in the area) and adopt "native" ones.

Torsten