From: João S. Lopes Filho
Message: 7084
Date: 2001-04-12
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Phaethon: an IE deity.
> --- In cybalist@..., markodegard@... wrote:
> > João S. Lopes Filho writes:
> > > I think Phaethon's Fall is an ancient theme
> > > similar to Lucifer-Samael's Fall, Ikaros's
> > > Fall, Babel Tower "the men wanted to reach
> > > the sky", Susanoo's descent to Earth.
> >
> > Phaethon's fall is indeed a topic found in Western art and
> literature.
> > As I initimated, it's the 16 year old kid just issued his drivers
> > license, who takes the family car out solo -- and wrecks it, and
> gets
> > himself killed (there is usually some beer involved). It's the kid,
> > going solo, doing his dad's job as a proto-journeyman -- and
> failing.
> > This is the psychologically correct element of the myth -- a
> > correctness which makes this particular 'Phaethon' the one we
> > remember.
> >
> > Be this as it may, this is the least interesting aspect of the name
> or
> > myth of 'Phaethon' in IE terms, tho' he's obviously a young, frisky
> > stallion just into his fulness of virility.
>
> Another character that tried to take his dad's place was Canaanite
> Helel, also associated with the morning star. He was associated with
> Lucifer( I believe Helel is used in the place of Lucifer in some
> versions of the bible). Helel was also said to be the son of the dawn
> god.
> The association with the over-ambitious son and the morning star
> might have something to do with Venus being visible even after the
> sun has risen, like it is trying to do the sun's job.
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