From: tgpedersen@...
Message: 6798
Date: 2001-03-27
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> Torsten pouts:
> >This exchange of ideas is a very good example of what I have grown
> >expect when I mention the possible connection between heavy metalpoisoning
> >and general decline and decay in some particularand general
> >society: Initial denial, then curiosity, then a stream of verbal
> >abuse; [...] Anybody still interested in the pain and suffering
> >paranoia and cruelty that heavy metal poisoning may cause I callon to go
> >to the medical department of your place of >learning and pick somebooks on
> >toxicology at random and read the >chapters on mercury and lead.misguided ideas.
>
> Torsten, so far I refuse to be bothered by your strange and
> You are who you are. Of course there is alot of suffering andmadness caused
> by metal poisoning. That's not the issue. The issue is that you areusing it
> to explain everything and you're becoming annoying to those whodesire an
> intelligent, well-rounded conversation.claim
>
> As you can judge by my name, I'm predominantly of Irish descent. To
> that the admittedly crazy behaviour of some individuals and groupsin
> Ireland (vis-a-vis Catholics and Protestants) is caused only andtruely by
> metal poisoning is outright childish. For this, you deserve thenegative
> comments thrusted towards you.He had a
>
> I'll let you in on a dangerously frank secret concerning my father.
> cute little pet name for me as a kid. He'd call me "retarded" or"stupid" or
> pretty much any adjective to run my self-esteem to the ground andbuild his
> own up. He'd do loony things like spank the living daylights outtame at the
> dinner table if I wasn't eating fast enough for his liking. Yes, itseemed
> like he would drink a 12-pack of beer every day right through mychildhood
> and adolescence. He'd mentally abuse my mother too. He'd also callher
> affectionate names like "whore", "slut" and "asshole". Nothing saysloving
> like calling your spouse a whore, I always say. I personally findit amazing
> that his liver is still functioning. I can only hope that I'veinherited the
> sturdiness of his organs. Clearly, however, his thinking processesare
> irreversibly affected and so there _is_ justice in this worldafterall.
> Sufficed to say, I choose not to speak to my father anymore and I'dmuch
> rather have coffee with my mother.blame my
>
> Now, are you going to continue to be an idiot on this List and
> childhood trauma and that of many other persons suffering fromfamily
> alcoholism on metal poisoning too, Torsten? No, I choose not tobelieve that
> you would be so warped. I think alcoholism is obviously far morereadily
> available as an explanation in this case to explain my father'spsychotic
> behaviour.view and
>
> What's the lesson here? If we must stubbornly take an uneducated
> restrict ourselves to only physical factors to explain individualand social
> behaviours, we still have many factors to choose from: druggas
> abuse/alcoholism, ergot poisoning, metal poisoning, malnutrition,
> poisoning, etc. There are still many other important factors toexplain
> human behaviour such as mythology, societal values, xenophobia, etcthat
> escape your narrow reasoning. This is unfortunate because you willremain
> ignorant and often offensive as a result. Your vast knowledge onmetal
> poisoning when misapplied means little to many on this list. Yourviews are
> simply too shallow to consider. If your intent is comedy, you'renot very
> funny. If your intent is to learn, you're not listening verycarefully.
>Obviously, I must have hit something.
> - gLeN
>
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