Re:

--- In cybalist@..., longgren@... wrote:

> According to ANCIENT EGYPTIAN, A LINGUISTIC INTRODUCTION,

by

> Antonio Loprieno, 1995, the word for house in Old Egyptian (3rd
> Millennium BC) was *paruw , with a long a. (pages 12-13)
> Depuydt's FUNDAMENTALS OF EGYPTIAN GRAMMAR, 1999, says on page

19

> that the "ancient" pronunciation of the r symbol was "r (rolling?)"
> Another symbol, "G1", or "vulture" is usually transcribed as "3" and
> pronounced as "a" or "e", but the ancient pronunciation, according

to

> page 18, was "r or l". This was not the symbol used in the word for
> house, though.
> The Eygptians called the Lybians either Ribu or Libu, but that is

the

> vulture letter again.
> Orel's HAMITO-SEMITIC ETYMOLOGICAL DICTIONARY lists *par-

"house,

> enclosure"
> "Berb *far(r)- 'enclosure'
> Eg pr 'house'
> ECh *par 'hangar': Mig para"
>
> Bomhard's THE NOSTRATIC MACROFAMILY
> page 253
> "Proto-Nosrtratic *p[h]ir-/*p[h]er- (?) 'house'
>
> A. Indo-European: Hittite (nom.-acc. sg.) pí-ir (from *p[h]er-)
> 'house', (dat. sg.) pár-ni, pár-na (from *p[h]r.-), (dat. pl.)
> pár-na-aš; Luwian (dat. sg.) [p]ár-ni 'house'; Hieroglyphic Luwian
> parn- 'house'; Lycian prñna- 'ouse', prñnawati 'to build, to
> construct'; Lydian bira- 'house'.
>
> B. Afroasiatic: Egyptian pr 'house; Coptic -por, per- 'house'.
>
> C. Dravidian: Tamil purai 'house, dwelling, small room',

pirai 'shed,

> factory', puraiyan 'house, cottage, dwelling made of leaves',

puraiyul

> 'house'; Malayalam pura 'house (esp. tatched house, hut, room';

Kodagu

> pore 'thatched roof'; Tulu pore 'roof, ceiling',

pura 'house'.

>
> There is another root with similar sound and similar meaning. p.

249:

>
> Proto-Nostratic *p[h]al-/*p[h]el- 'settlement, settled place'
>
> Proto-Indo-European *p[h]lH- 'citadel, fortified high place
> Sanskrit pur rampart, fortress, town
> Greek polis
> Lithuanian pilis
>
> Proto-Finno-Ugrain *palg3 'village, dwelling-place
>
> Dravidian: palli hamlet, hermitage, temple (esp of Buddhists

and

> Jains), palace, workshop, sleeping place, school room
> Malayalam palli hut, public building
> Telugu palli hut ; palle "small village"
>
> Proto-Altaic *palaga city, town, village
> Mongolian balgasun city, town, village
> Old Turkish balïq city, town village
>
> I would add German Burg, Swedish borg, English borough, and Thracian
> -bria.
>
> A similar root to the above? is German Berg,
> Gaulish -briga
>
> All of these words seem to be connected to a fort or house on a

hill?

>
> http://www.delphi.com/paleolinguistic
> http://www.delphi.com/prehistory
> http://www.delphi.com/truthseekers8

or, for an even stranger suggestion, see

http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/austric.html

at the bottom.

Torsten