From: tgpedersen@...
Message: 6412
Date: 2001-03-07
> Od: tgpedersen@... <tgpedersen@...>that
> Do: cybalist@... <cybalist@...>
> Data: 7 marca 2001 12:29
> Temat: [tied] Desatemized Germanic
>
>
> Torsten:
> Now this proposed "desatemisation" has got me curious. Who said
> and would you give a sketch of how they think that happened?
--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> There are many "phylogenetic" proposals (e.g. recent cladistic
models computer-generated by Don Ringe) with Germanic and Balto-
Slavic as sister clades (the nearest relatives of each other). Such
models typically regard satemisation as an innovation that happened
somewhere up the evolutionary path (in the common ancestor of Balto-
Slavic, Indo-Iranian, etc.), only to be later cancelled in Germanic.
Of course what you get from a computer depends on what you feed into
it -- here, on your selection of "characters" to be analysed. Any
bias in this selection is likely to be reflected in the results. I
don't personally regard 100% "desatemisation" of an originally
satemic langauge (combined with the mysterious reintroduction of
labiovelars to boot) as a realistically imaginable process.
>
> Piotr
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>
As you had probably guessed, I am looking for potential victims for
my new-fangled shibbolethisation tool (here k/s, and Germanic purging
the /s/'es). Does Don Ringe provide a mechanism by which the
desatemisation might have come about?
Torsten