From: tgpedersen@...
Message: 6409
Date: 2001-03-07
--- In cybalist@..., tgpedersen@... wrote:
[snip]
>
> Anyway, more Humli stuff:
>
> Chuvash Russian Da. OE
> xâmla xmel' humle hymel hops
> xâmâl (stebel') stem
> xam 1 ja sam I myself
> 2 moj, my own,
> svoj, its own
> sobstvennyj
> xamâr 1 my samy we ourselves
> 2 nash, svoj our own
> xamarla po svojski, the way we do it
> kak prijatno
> u blizkix ljudjej,
> po-nashenski
>
> of which the latter seem to be good for making an etnonym, in which
> case one might guess that the Humlungs (or Hundings) were the
> followers of the Huns, and the eponymous king Humli a later
> invention, so that an army, not a king drowned in a river.
> (But I'm not happy with the equation u/a; 'Cuvash' in Chuvash is
> <Châvash>. I assume the /â/ is Turkic "i".
> My NuDansk Ordbog says of the first gloss that it is probably a
> Slavic loan (of which there aren't that many in Danish). Judging
from
> the -u-, if it was loaned from Slavic, that happened pre-Germanic
> stress shift. Is it a Turkic loan? Funny that that word should be
> loaned.
>
> And on top of that there is a mound called "king Humle's grave" on
> Langeland near a village called Humble (which of course
means 'hops'.
>
and from Jordanes:
begin of quote
When Vitiges learned of this through messengers, he sent a force
under Hunila, a leader of the Goths, to Perusia which was beleaguered
by them. (312) While they were endeavoring by a long siege to
dislodge Count Magnus, who was holding the place with a small force,
the Roman army came upon them, and they themselves were driven away
and utterly exterminated.
end of quote
A fantastic story
> Torsten