Re: [tied] Icelandic genetics.

Perhaps because on the slave market this physical type was favored by
galleys's owners for its indurance. Maybe that is what Icelanders saw on the
merchants's ships coming by sea. This is pure speculation; however, I
remember reading that some European country granted freedom to all Russian
slaves used on the galleys (13 c.-15c. AD) as gesture of compassion and
European unity for the suffering endured during the Tartar invasion.
AK----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine Hagemann" <chagemann@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Icelandic genetics.

> This is interesting because Icelanders themselves will often refer to a
> person that has red hair as having the "hair color of the slaves".
> Catherine
>
> "Rex H. McTyeire" wrote:
> >
> > Whoa..slow down..let me catch up a bit..
> >
> > Thanks Mark for an interesting piece. Among the two prime possibilities

if

> > the report is sound: 1) either the Original Norse colonists stopped off

en

> > route westward to pick up a few girls..or 2) the established themselves,
> > then went shopping closer than home for mates or 3) the original

colonists

> > were Scots, later taken by intrusive Norse..in the time honored

procedure of

> > killing or chasing off the men, while finding useful application for the
> > available females. As confused as the history of that area is..either

may

> > apply. I Used your closing line re sheep/wolves on my own Scots list..to
> > stir up some of the ongoing disconnect with Scots Highlanders and
> > Lowlanders..I'm waiting for the lowlanders..grouped as sheep in the

scenario

> > to respond.
> >
> > longgren@... adds:
> > >You haven't studied history, It is well known that the vikings
> > > brought many Irish slaves with them to Iceland. This study is bogus,
> > > because the people of northern Scotland are actually mostly of viking
> > > decent. Linguistics is one field. Genetics is another field. History

is

> > yet
> > > another. When people in one field pretend to be experts in a

different

> > > field they make major blunders.
> >
> > I dunno. I think it almost as big a problem to read written history,

and

> > take it as fact: the new technologies and the muti-disciplinary approach

are

> > tossing a lot of written misperceptions, standing revered for decades,

into

> > the dogma box. Disagree that Northern Scots were mostly Viking..we
> > historically know of Danish settlements, and Viking raids impacting on

North

> > eastern Scotland significantly, and I will concede that the largest

single

> > influence since the Celts in all of N. Scotland was North continental,

but

> > limiting it to Viking as defined time wise..won't work. Scots and Irish
> > don't match MtDna or Haplogroup1/Y wise, and the old concept of Scotti
> > redefining Scotland with massive settlement c. 500 AD has been

questioned

> > since 1988, and recently seriously archaeologically threatened. (Whether
> > Bjork is Scottish or not..regardless of the pop writing in the online
> > piece..Is a useless point and can only come from a generalized and I

thing

> > erroneous perception of what a Scots is..or an attempt to redefine them

as

> > Norse only..which won't fly...there are neolithic indicators as well.)
> >
> > Cu Stima;
> > Rex H. McTyeire
> > Bucharest, Romania
> >
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