Re: [tied] Re: etruscan, Lydian and Greek inscriptions

Your choice. Pity. Competent linguists have no monopoly of knowledge, but they have a good research methodology, worked out over a period of 200 years. You should learn a lot before you start turning things by 180 degrees, just as you'd have to study physics for years before attempting a revolutionary revision of General Relativity. I did have a look at your decipherment methods. They ignore all the rules of conduct which are obligatory in serious linguistics. It would be a waste of time to explain why, since most of the people on this list, even those without much linguistic training, can see it at a glance.

Piotr

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Subject: [tied] Re: etruscan, Lydian and Greek inscriptions

--- In cybalist@egroups.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@......> wrote: > John, > > There is really no need to "decipher" Etruscan or Lydian, let alone any Greek texts. They have already been deciphered by competent scholars. Etruscan and Lydian are difficult to interpret because the surviving documents are short and contain a restricted register of words, but otherwise there's nothing mysterious about these languages. Take this advice from a brother Slav: if you continue like this you'll make yourself the laughing-stock of this list. > > Happy New Year, > > Piotr > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: oko@... > To: cybalist@egroups.com Thank you for your advice. But it is not easy for me to follow your advice. Let me explain why. In my home page I posted my version how to read and understand Etruscan, Lydian and Greek inscriptions. For many years I hesitated what to do with it. I know that I am 180 deg out of phase with the established knowledge among the Linguists. Because I am lost with all the knowledge published by Linguists and can not get explanation why I got such result. To solicit the answer I posted what I have for honest evaluation. This was not easy task for me, because I knew that the evaluation would be done by one of two methods. Political - by simple statement. "I am right and you are wrong" without any explanation. By established linguistic method. Competent Linguist who has patent on whole linguistic knowledge has done it. While the above evaluation from the present day knowledge is valid it does not explain to me where and why I made mistake. I thought that the forum exist for every one to make honest comments and explain why one agrees or disagrees. Such a method will not stop progress in linguistic field but increase the knowledge of each one whether he agrees or disagrees. With such a thought in mind I posted my version for comments. When I deciphered Etruscan I began to evaluate obtained result by asking myself many questions. I could not get satisfying answer because, to be 180 deg out of phase with the accepted linguistic knowledge, this must be coincidence. But again, how it could be with so many Etruscan inscriptions that I red. I again reviewed my decipherment but the result did not change. Studying the existing knowledge I decided to investigate Lydian inscriptions. Herodotus wrote that the Etruscans come from Lydia. If so than the Etruscan should speak the same language. With the help of Etruscan alphabet I was able to read name in bilingual grave inscription and soon after all the Lydian inscriptions that I had. But the thought of coincidence was still there. To prove to myself that this is coincidence I decided to decipher Greek inscriptions with respect to Etruscan and Lydian alphabets. But again the same coincidence was there. In my home page I posted Greek inscriptions and included alphabet for every one who won't's to check my results. In Lydian posting I did not give alphabet but it can be easily produce by stripping vowels from Ukrainian writing. By doing that one will have one to one relation of Ukrainian letter to Lydian cipher. The same is true for Greek and Etruscan. My home page is http://home.att.net/~oko/home.htm I do believe that I am in right place to receive honest comments. Thank you. John > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 4:37 AM > Subject: [tied] Re: etruscan, Lydian and Greek inscriptions > > > > I deciphered Etruscan writing and can read and understand. > I also deciphered Lydian and Greek inscription with respect > to Etruscan alphabet and language. > Please visit http://home.att.net/~oko/home.htm > where I posted about stated information > > John