Re: [tied] The sexual life of the IEs

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 5126
Date: 2000-12-19

Let me offer you some more food for thought. An alternative term for "mate with, cover (perhaps especially of animals)" seems to have been *h1org^he- (an o-grade present of the type for which something like 3sg. *h1org^h-ei, pl. *h1rg^h-énti, mediopass. h1rg^h-ór is reconstructed in the recent literature. The original meaning is supposed to survive in Hittite, while the other daughter languages have something like "rage", "move rhythmically" (Greek orkheo: 'cause to dance', orkheomai 'dance; shake, leap', hence orchestra). The corresponding noun is *h1org^h-i-s 'testicle, scrotum, male genitals'.
 
*pes-es- is the number one term for "penis", hence the quite widespread derivative *pes-no- 'man, male'. For female private parts a number of terms can be reconstructed, probably due to early regional variation, semantic contamination and tabooistic distortion. The variants *kut-, *put- and *kup- (with extensions, e.g. *kut-so-s, *kut-(s)no-s or *kup-no-s, *put-o-s, *kup-o-s) are all attested and it's quite impossible to tell which is the "original" root. They can all be connected with homophonous roots (e.g. *kut- with *kut-o-s 'skin, leather', related to Latin cutis, English hide, etc., which suggests a euphemism like "leather bag"), but such connections, even if real, may well have resulted from secondary associations.
 
I've never heard of *gWi:bHos, but I'll have a look at it. If genuine, it might be interesting. But Germanic *wi:ban can't derive from anything with initial *gW- (which would have ended up as *kw-).
 
Piotr
 
 
 
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Absolutely no in-depth stuff on IE sexuality. Now that I'm aware of /oipho:/ and /yabhati/, I might be able to chance at something.
... I wonder if it could have anything to do with *gwi:bh- that the American Heritage site lists. I know that the phonetics are not perfect at all but then, these sorts of terms are often corrupted over time like the word "cunt" and Chaucerian "queynte" or "arse" versus "ass".
... Interestingly, according to the site, *gwi:bh- is only seen in Tocharian and Germanic. This distribution seems to complement the "eastern" *yebh-.