Re: [tied] More on the crummy sanguis/asrk connection

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 5123
Date: 2000-12-18

It may be of interest to some members (also to Miguel when he's back) that Adams and Mallory (EIEC) separate *ngWen- 'gland, groin, swelling in region of groin' (including ade:n, ökkr and inguen) from *negWHrós 'kidney' (they reconstruct the latter with a parenthesised initial *h1 which is not warranted by any attested forms, and don't postulate a heteroclitic neuter). They don't so much as suggest that the words might be related.
 
On the other hand, EIEC supports the analysis of sanguen- as *h1sh2an-gW-en-, though neither the *-gW- nor the double nasal extension is justified; nor is any parallel case offered. I suppose the argument would boil down to "Skt. -k in asr.k is a mysery and sanguen is a mystery, so maybe they're the same mystery".
 
Piotr
 
 
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From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] More on the crummy sanguis/asrk connection

The difficulties of connecting <ade:n> and <ökkr> (not necessarily
<inguen>, of course) to <nioro> and <nephro:n> are well known.
Pokorny, and de Saussure, Brugmann, Hirt and Bezzenberger (quoted by
Boisacq) didn't think them unsurmountable.  Be that as it may, I don't
see why the etymology of <re:ne:s> should in any way be an argument
for divorcing <inguen> from *nehgwr/*nghwen-.  Anttila's conjecture is
interesting, but metathesis is always a doubtful (circular) recourse.
I have no idea what the etymology of <re:ne:s> is.  Why not
*re:it-n-o-, cf. Lith. <ríetas> "Oberschenkel, Lende", OCS <ritI>
"bum")?