Re: [tied] Catching up again...

Now I think the IE Moon-God is that who emcompasses traits of Indian Pushan
and Greek Pan-Hermes. Protector of cattle, guardian of trade and travellers;
protector against wolves (earthly: danger for the cattle, heavenly:
eclyptical monster). Pushan was substituted by Indian Moon-God Candra that
may represent influences from Middle East. Pan-Hermes was substituted by
Selene-Mene ("proto-European" moon-goddess ?). The name is *ME:N(S) or
*LOUKSNA.
IE Sun is probably a god, although there's the "Sun-Daughter", present in
India, Lithuania and Germania, with vestiges in Greece. She is the daughter
of the Sun-God; or alternatively the own Sun-Goddess. She was lober of the
Twins, but seemed to be linked to Moon-God (Pushan husband of Surya:, Pan
lover of Selene; Menelaos husband of Helene). It's interesting to think if
there's some relation between *Me:n (cf. Lithuanian Menuolis, Phrigian Men,
Hittite Menulash?) and Menelaos.
IE Sun God was the son of one of the sisters Dawn and Night, perhaps begot
by an incest, the father being Sky-Father or the Terrible Sovereign (cf.
rape of Dawn (Ushas) or Twilight (Samdhya) by Brahma (substituting Dyaus)).
Joao SL
Rio

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From: Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
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Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 7:09 AM
Subject: [tied] Catching up again...


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>
> Joao talked about "bears" and "horses". I don't believe that there is a
> mythological assocation between the two other than that the two represent
> the Mother aspect of Gimbutas' Goddess. I've concluded so far that the
horse
> twin myth (*Manus/*Yemos) is simply a shift of generations whereupon the
sun
> and moon are no longer viewed as twins but rather their offspring. The
sun,
> being associated already with the Goddess and the mare, was transferred to
> her offspring in the form of the Horse Twins (ie: Twins of the MOTHER
HORSE,
> aka the Sun). I'm still trying to figure out what sex we might securely
> consider the sun and the moon to be in IE myth though. Maybe the sex
> preference was regional and the IE-speaking community envisioned both a
male
> AND a female sun deity depending on who you talked to. Perhaps, we might
> have to swallow a large regional variation when reconstructing this myth
of
> the sun and the moon so that we can at best say that the sun is the PARENT
> (either sex depending on region) of the Horse Twins.
>